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  • dummgelauft
    03-25 11:24 AM
    Teddy. The intention of such post is to tell people that they need to look beyond spending time on predictions. Predictions can help people know the extent of the backlog. For some it is a motivating factor because they were in the dark until USCIS started publishing data. People used to think their Greencard is round the corner and had no idea about the backlog. So yes the data and estimations have helped get a clearer picture. And this has benefited our community. IV has worked for several months to get the data from USCIS through its agenda item in the past. Today USCIS is publishing data at regular intervals because IV community had participated in a mass campaign to get FOIA data from USCIS. There is a whole history of advocacy behind the data everyone is using for prediction today and it was advocacy that got things done. However they should not get stuck with it and have a more 360 degree view of the issue. For some predictions are a source of encouragement for advocacy work. People leading predictions can play an important role in giving direction to others and help solve the root cause of the problem.They should be urged use it for the advocacy work as well if possible. For example a good research document can be made to illustrate visually the extent of backlogs and wait times. This document can be then circulated to media and lawmaker offices. Do not look at predictions in isolation. Secondly, the data people are using is still incomplete and has lot of assumptions. I had posted some update on the data in the donor forum early this month based on a recent meeting. So predictions we see on the forums will not be fully correct. People need to use predictions as means rather than consider it as an end.

    That is exactly why these are known as PREDICTIONS.

    Suggested reading

    "A prediction or forecast is a statement about the way things will happen in the future, often but not always based on experience or knowledge. While there is much overlap between prediction and forecast, a prediction may be a statement that some outcome is expected, while a forecast may cover a range of possible outcomes.

    Although guaranteed information about the information is in many cases impossible, prediction is necessary to allow plans to be made about possible developments; Howard H. Stevenson writes that prediction in business "... is at least two things: Important and hard."[1]"
    Prediction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prediction)

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  • AirWaterandGC
    05-02 07:46 PM
    Thanks for the response. I believe I should check with the school. If the school accepts just the proof of having applied for COS, then I should be fine. I dont understand if they accept F1 application proof, then why not for H4 ? Anyways thanks a lot.

    I am in a similar situation. After failing to get a definite answer on the exact time taken by the process of changing status to H4 while in the US, I have decided to take a trip to India to get this stamped instead. I was told that change of status to H4 needs to be approved before starting school, simply showing proof of having applied for COS is insufficient. But if you apply for change of status to F1,then approval is not required before starting school. However I would suggest you confirm this from your lawyer/school.

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  • sbindval
    09-19 02:21 PM
    My wife attended the rally yesterday and this is what she wrote her friends who didn't come to the rally!

    Yesterday, Shyam, Isha and I spent all day in DC as part of immigrationvoice, a grassroots non-profit organization that acts as an interface between highly skilled immigrants and the legislative and executive branches of the government. It was a wonderful experience. Over thousand people met at the foot of the Washington monument, and walked all the way to the US capitol. The organization had made good arrangements. Its amazing how people from all over the country were there and very few local people. One South African couple had driven on Monday from Indiana and came to the rally to celebrate the husband's birthday!! He wanted to be a part of this rally as a present for his birthday. We had 2 people - Manish and Sri, from New Hampshire staying with us on Monday who came just for the rally. There were some british, some chinese along with we Desis.

    The need for the rally brought to light the real issues -

    Most of us may have applied for our I-485 Step 3 in the greencard process, in July 2007, but that doesn't mean we will get our green cards soon. The govt accepts only 140000 applications a year and only 9000 are allocated to Indians in all categories.

    Lawmakers and congress are confused when they think of immigrants - they club legal and illegal together. Even the Seattle senator who addressed the gathering yesterday made the same mistake. He said its good that you guys are out here so the congress can see its not only the janitors and others who have immigration issues but also highly skilled immigrants! No mention of legal. He used his time to promote the democratic party and we tried to remind him we don't have voting rights even though we pay the same taxes and work like everyone else!

    We have to do something to be heard and heard right!

    Thats the beauty of this country you can reach out to people in the highest positions and get heard. When the voice is collective its even more powerful. Shyam along with many others met with many congressmen and senators over the span on 2 days to explain our plight to them. One congresswoman mentioned that when a bill comes to vote in congress she polls the number of phone calls and emails she gets from her constituency and submits her votes accordingly. I was surprised to see how much actually our voice means.

    We don't realize the power we possess since we are sitting in our own life bubbles of work, home, stress, kids and everything that most often swallows our individuality and ability to think. We need to step up think for ourselves and and help ourselves and everyone else in the process.

    Like Sheela murthy, one of the leading immigration lawyers, said that yesterday's rally and the forum immigrationvoice.org (https://mail.medimmune.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://immigrationvoice.org/) may not make an immediate impact. But we are truly paving the way for the future of legal immigrants to the US.

    The forum is the only organized and collective way to get out our frustration against the system! So many people don't understand the hardships and seriousness of the greencard issues. Especially the people who got their greencards pre 2001 era! If you are interested in finding out more about the forum and the need for high level lobbying please visit immigrationvoice.org (https://mail.medimmune.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://immigrationvoice.org/). If you were ever stuck in the green card rut or you or you have family who are applying, please spread the word and join the fight!

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  • Saralayar
    04-11 06:02 PM
    I think CITIZENShip years Credit or Reduction in the years is Make most sense for the highly skilled immigrant from India and China as those are the people who suffers most because of backlog and name check.

    I also think we should stick to the "five year federal taxes paid" beacuse that is what they expect from normal family based GC holder. Also adding Masters and Higher degrees in the STEM fields attract possible more support.

    We should not talk any where close to 10 /15 years waiting time as that is not what current system of citizesnship talks about.

    Also marriage based GC already has 3 years after GC rule so it may beeasy to get it.

    Making it more complicated like Percent credit for before GC filing, after GC filing, after getting GC May become hard and complicated to convenince politicains who might be amending those rules.

    So Keeping it simple - 5 yr federal taxes, MS or higher in STEM, 3 years after GC - you get citizenship (all of these has precedents)
    Just today, the May 2008 visa bulletin is out and lot of discussions are going on in various threads in this Forum. As per the movement of the dates, it is in a snail phase and considering that, we should include the citizenship issue also so that the total years for all these processess can be reduced significantly.


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  • arc
    05-29 01:38 AM
    Its been my status from April 20...??? anyone in my boat???

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  • naushit
    07-28 03:47 PM
    Wow, I am in exactly same boat, So , basically FP results are blocking EAD card production!!... next renewal, It will paper based EAD.!!


    EAD e-filed: May 27th
    Receipt notices received: 1st week of June
    FP done: June 19th
    Card production ordered LUD: June 28th
    Other soft LUDs: July 25th, July 27th
    Still waiting...

    InfoPass: This morning...07/28/08
    Per the guy at the InfoPass counter, the FP report was received on July 24th (which probably explains the July 25th LUD). He said EAD will not be printed or sent out before FP check is complete. In 2007, they did not run FP checks to issue the first EAD after July fiasco.

    So could this explain the delay that folks here are seeing? FP Code 2 was done for EAD, so not sure why this should take so long :mad: Maybe I am mistaken, but I thought that only FP Code 3 that's done for I-485 can take a long, long time. Can someone post info on EAD FP checks?

    Update: Here's what I have after some quick research on USCIS biometrics:


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  • akshayae
    05-19 05:31 PM
    Called 4 of the offices and spoke to the staffers at each office. They seem to know the Group !

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  • SGP
    04-15 05:01 AM
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD MORNING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Deadline = April 30th, 2011
    Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
    Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
    2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
    3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")

    This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.

    As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.

    Visit Immigration Voice Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Employment_Based_Green_Card#Process_.28EB1.2C_EB2. 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
    Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date) - for overview of this initiative

    As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.

    The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
    What can you do to participate?
    1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.


    Then please send an email to ivcoordinator@gmail.com (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated

    2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.

    I485 Filing Initiative Flier (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a8/Flier_I485_latest2.pdf)

    3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.

    Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.

    Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)

    (Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)

    Immigration Wiki -
    I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date)

    PM these members for additional info:
    nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
    Dedicated members can also join the leaders group: http://groups.google.com/group/485-filing-iv-initiative


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  • GCBy3000
    02-02 03:16 PM
    Big contribution. This should motivate others.

    I have sent my $20 through my bank. It should reach IV with memo gvby3000.

    Let us keep on doing what we can. One day we will win. NEVER GIVE UP and NEVER DISCOURAGE IV.

    Donated $500 today per my promise. Paypal ID #2863392354669581P

    Apologies for posting this update on the wrong thread couldn't find the right one.

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  • gk_2000
    03-25 09:17 PM
    Various reasons...time...schedule...other obligations etc...lack of readily available information on IV as an organisation or state chapter....too many steps to do simple things like joining the state chapter :)
    ya some of the reasons seem ridiculous...but even small things easily hinder people who already have a busy life. They create mental barriers...where such tasks are just postponed rather than handled in an instant.
    I am trying to get more of IV core members to take these small things seriously and have even offered to help in this regard.

    like the example of the weekly attorney call
    Many like me don't have the time to search through forums as to what the number is for the call or where is the link for the chat. If its displayed on the main page "Click here to join attorney call" that would be so much easier and encourage a lot more participation.

    I understand that there is lack of resources at IV to do this or address a lot of other things...but rather than being frustrated at lack of participation maybe more focus can be placed at these many small issues that need to get addressed
    Please understand that i am not blaming anyone. I very much greatly appreciate the work IV puts in. Its quite a noble job where people are sacrificing their time and some of them already have their GCs

    How about a button: "Get GC by Fedex express mail. (Shipping extra)" ? :p


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  • apb
    07-11 07:28 PM
    �It has also come to my attention that USCIS began returning visa numbers to the State Department as early as Thursday, July 5, 2007, due to their inability to review applications effectively."

    This is awesome.. Aug bulletin possible C

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  • sravani
    05-15 02:17 PM
    My 485 reached NSC and the receipt date is - 04/19/2007.

    What is the approximate NSC processing time for sending out the Finger Print notices after applying the 485?

    Appreciate your help


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  • gcny2006
    06-13 11:35 AM
    I think i heard that mike pence will be on lou dobb's tonight.

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  • somegchuh
    06-14 02:08 AM
    I couldn't agree more with you. This is the worst thing to happen for ppl who have been patiently waiting in BEC lines since 2001 !!! Essentially this means that dates will get current for all the PERM filers since Mar 2005, giving them the advantage of AC21 while leaving simple ppl like you stuck. And then by the time your labor gets approved dates may not be current anymore.
    But unless you are the type of person who's willing to get into buying labor certification there is nothing you can do! Is it unfair, hell yeah! Life's a b****. But remember you are getting screwed now others have either been screwed at some other point or will get screwed later. We all get screwed :D

    Are yuou out of your mind? You are asking a man who has been waiting in line since 2003 a spoilsport? If he was really a spolisport who would bought his way out by now. You want him to celebrate while you get AC21 and he's left waiting again? You have some nerve!
    Why do you want a spoilsport bro. Everybody is rejoicing this moment. Let us not spoil everybody's moment here. I agree with ur reasoning, but the fact that everybody can apply for 485 brings justice to everybody. My PD is Mar 2004 and i am equally happy for all who can apply 485.


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  • mjadala
    05-20 10:11 PM
    called all of the offices.

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    11-04 10:41 AM


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  • Lasantha
    03-17 10:31 AM
    Please vote !!! :)

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  • agiridhar
    01-12 06:44 PM
    Any thots ?

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  • sravani
    05-16 01:57 PM
    My wife and I went for the medical examination 1.5 years ago, when we thought we'll be eligible to file shortly. We still have those sealed envelopes. However, the time passed and I understand we need to undergo the exam again for our June filing, correct?

    The first time around my wife had a positive skin test (immunized in childhood) and negative Xray. Back then she was advised to never do the skin test again, as it'll always be positive. So, she'll need to go for an Xray this time. However, she is pregnant, and they don't Xray pregnant women... Is she an exempt then? There gotta be a provision for something like this, right?



    The following thread answers your question.


    09-19 11:11 PM
    Hmmm... humorous stories...

    Well there was gsc999 and jazz trying to pull a "room service" gag on Drona and myself, but they went to the wrong room...

    ... I've heard some pretty hilarious tales about a comedic cab journey with a driver that wouldn't obey, and got some impromptu driving instruction by Logiclife...

    ... but a lot of the others must stay in DC :)

    05-03 11:52 PM
    Finally after 12 yrs in this country greened...

    Status: Card production ordered from NSC
    No SLUD from 2009
    PD : 16th May 2006

    Wishing you folks all the very best!

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