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  • buddyinsd
    01-26 07:27 PM
    U donno where to even start. My argument was based on relativity and "most of" theory and never was 100%.

    U must be a gulti trying to defend ur region - God bless

    Politics of a region / state has nothing to do with this discussion. The school which got shutdown did not have 100% students from one region or country.

    FYI All the Hawla, Bofors, Fodder scams, 2G scam did not even occur from the mentioned one state alone !

    The state has / had best IIT coaching facilities ( you call it a manufacturing shop, I don't care). Which produced lot of good engineers, who genuine have completed their education in this country and added value here.

    It is unfortunate that some people knew what they were doing and others were frustrated with long wait (esp H4's who have been waiting for ever in the retrogression even though their spouses had approved 140's for years) and were told to pursue a shady option saying it was legal by scrupulous body shops wanting to make money. A spouse from no other country other than India and China has to wait this long to EAD, even all the spouses of substitute labor are working on EAD's.

    Dont make a blanket statement about corruption, every region has its problems. Even in this country money from recovered from freezers of politicians. Corrupt & Dishonest people exist every place.

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  • paskal
    05-29 07:01 PM
    So if I'm understanding it correctly. For all the ones who applied for I-140 after May15th 07 all there petitions will be cancelled or revoked? I really that should come from the USCIS as a amendment and not from a news or a blog. I have been browsing the website and yet to find it. Can someone help me out with the exact text from USCIS? :mad:

    instead of trolling the web looking for USCIS announcements
    the bill is not yet law, how do you expect to find USCIS notification of anything? no one knows what the final law will be after the house and conference committee finish their parts. so do the necessary thing and let's try to get the best bill possible.

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  • boreal
    08-12 10:59 AM
    You can revnew your GC after an intial period of 10 years. You are at your free will and wish to remain on your GC. You will be eligible for Naturalization after 5 years. That does not mean that you have to use that oppurtunity.

    yep, makes sense.
    Regarding the orignal topic, even I have never heard anyone not getting citizenship because of them leaving the GC employer. Personally, I won't wait for six months or even a single day, if I see a better opportunity.

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  • anandrajesh
    12-13 03:11 PM
    I have got a job offer & this employer has few pre-approved labors which he offered me if I join him.

    I am on H1B visa since 3.5+ years & I am looking for the company to get my GC as soon as possible. I have BS + 10 years of IT experience in India/ USA/ UK, as Software Engineer/ Solution Architect / Project Lead/ Project Manager / Sr. PM etc.

    I want to know :

    1. Is it possible to use this pre-approved labor for me... if I have all matching skills & experiences to show in my resume (experiences/skills gained before that approval date of that labor)...? This approved labor shows the name of their previous consultant.

    2. Is it necessary to file the labor substitution by the employer...if I want to use that approved labor...?

    3. Is it possible for this employer to directly file my I-140 against this approved labor...?

    4. What are the info/proofs to verify that this employer is really filling my I-140 against this labor... ? (This employer has their attorney & I could not have better communication with their attorney)

    5. This employer is a consulting company...(desi) & they asked me to sign a financial agreement to repay their expenses on labor substitution/I-140/I-485...if I will leave them early. ...Is it legal to ask for such kind of agreement...?

    Please let me know as much as info/ guidance you can provide to me.

    Great thanks in advance for all of your help.


    Another one to add fuel to our burning fire. :(

    It is not ethical to use Labor substitutions, but an effective way to bypass the long queue ahead of you.

    all i want to say to you is, Beware of Desi Companies. Good Luck.


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  • ItIsNotFunny
    04-13 01:56 PM
    Whatever dude!

    Don't vent your anger on me; vent it on the immigration system. Like you I also have a right to say whatever I feel. If moderators feel it is against the forum guidelines they can delete my posts or threads and I am fine with this. This is called discipline and respect for system and authority. We are using someone's property when we post on this forum. We do not own it.

    In your office do you ask your CEO/VPs to first send you a one liner explaination before he takes a decision on your project? Think about it

    Calm down guys. Just chill and think what to do next ....

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  • hopefullegalimmigrant
    07-26 11:21 AM
    For those who think this is like another forum like alcoholics anonymous etc. I think that is what this is(not literally though). Without immigration voice or like forums we could be a lot worse. it is good to vent, exert feelings and come out with experiences and share them P2P. This is one of our life lines. One way or the other immigration affects us. Each one takes it in different ways. Like it or not.:cool:


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  • mybid2003
    11-18 04:28 PM
    I am still waiting for my FP. :-(

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  • sayantan76
    12-27 12:09 PM
    Pineapple .. you hit the nail right on the head. It is a misconception that everything is cool in India. There are a lot more problems than just your salary. Money is not everything . I think standard of living and less corruption , cleanliness and less crowd do count towards life.
    i know i end up getting red dots for speaking up my mind - but i dont seem to learn!

    outsourcing is a phenomenon that will slowly expand in scope beyond low-end IT jobs - but the larger issue is that overall economic activity, which was concentrated in a few cities around the world - like NYC, London, Singapore, Tokyo etc., is getting geographically distributed - today more cities/ countries have world class higher education schools, stock exchanges, hospitals, manufacturing companies, banks than ever before...as a result - starting with tier II and tier III cities and eventually NYC, Chicago etc -the pride of place held by many US cities is now going over to places like Mumbai, Jo'berg, East European cities, Brazil, Chinese cities etc......companies are choosing to list their stocks at hitherto unknown exchanges, people are travelling to India and Thailand to get medical treatment done and so on

    obviously jobs of all kinds - not just IT jobs - move alongwith the shift in economic activity - and this is not just about saving labor costs - but about overall balancing of demand and supply for land, labor, capital and entrepreneurship.

    So, those who have high skill adaptability, geographical mobility and a strong network of professional peers are likely to continue to succeed in this game...having a GC or not would become irrelevant sooner than we probably think..

    A personal comment for hpandey - not sure where you live in US- but i cant imagine how living in 300sqft lofts in NYC or shabby NJ suburbs (for many of us) and doing all grocery/ laundry/ housekeeping/ NYC type commute on your own can be any worse than living in delhi or mumbai or bangalore with driver, domestic helps etc. :-)


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  • NNReddy
    09-20 04:09 PM
    When was your EAD and AP issued? what date.

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  • nrk
    10-31 09:22 AM
    When you make a call to the call center and find out some details which they don't know, they will open a service request for you. Some one apart from the call center people will reply to that service request. You will be receiving a response in mail.

    Can anyone please tell , What is a Service Request ?
    I know about infopass and the call center telephone number.


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  • sats123
    06-19 09:51 PM
    Here is another part of story.

    My PD was current back in 2004, this attorney/employer ignored my calls/emails from Oct to Dec 15. They filed my 485 during christmas week end, they screwed up something and USCIS rejected my application (thats what they say). Thanks to retrogession from Jan 2005. All my documents were ready by Oct. I would have had my EAD since 2005.

    De javu, again I am being mandated to file thru same attorney. I don't have problem paying more money for a good attorney and good service.

    I don't know if I am in a trap or something.

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  • mirage
    12-12 01:11 PM
    The more the evil called 'Labor Subsitution' is alive, the more grief we are gonna get. Especially EB-3's. BEC's are chruning out labors, I'm sure 50-60 % of the benificiaries have moved on. But there approved Labors are being sold openly. I'm guessing there are atleast 30-40K EB3 India in 2001-2003. You can Imagine How any years it'll take for the dates to cross 2003 Dec. My calc is


    3000 EB3 numbers available every year.
    statistics says average 2.5 visas are used by each benificiary family. Conidering that if Congress doesn't change anything(Doesn't release any new Green Card numbers and make not change whatsoever) I am guessing it should take 25-30 years for date to become current for an EB3 guy with PD Jan'2004


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  • sravani
    05-22 04:33 PM
    This date is for those people who try to ebcome illegal ( like us , now we are thinkign to become one). Now you cant become illegal becos of this cut off date.

    :) We should find out a way to convince them we worked illegally for cash before Jan 1, 2007. Some one suggested before if we can find another H1B provide an affidavit that he/she did some lawn work at the house both of them will become eligible for the mighty 'Z' visa :D

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  • mbawa2574
    07-10 08:57 AM
    I think we should go after him. Every time he calls us cheap labor. He opposes employment based green cards as well as H1b. In a sense , he hates Indians.
    He fuels the rumors against our cause. See his video below :-


    Everyone who opposes High Skilled Immigration is his friend. So I don't see any reason to refrain from going after this retarded soul. Expose him, blog against him. Take off his cover and let the world know , what a big communist liar he is.


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  • alterego
    07-07 06:48 PM
    MHB's face spoke more than words can say. Not sure acting or genuine expression captured by the cameraman but great.
    Showed his frustration and disappointment very well. Overall a well done and convincing piece.

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  • hebbar77
    05-18 06:17 PM
    In india we created so many types of quotas, some of us cant even live there expecting fairness.
    Now here? ....! Jees!

    I want a quota so that I get my GC tomorrow, though I have no valid reason.


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  • saggi13
    02-17 10:25 PM
    i had a GC of a priority date 01-13-2003. Then my employer was kind enough to do one more simultaneous application with a date of 11-15-2004.

    The attorney we were working with at that time exchanged the I140 between apps and he screwed up big time on my 2003. So we had to withdraw both my I140 approved 2003 application and the 11-15-2004.

    Then we had to go back and apply for Perm and start the process again. I spent 5K and my employer about another 5K on 3 apps so far.

    if it is fate on one side it was USCIS on the other, but god was on my side, and hence i am still in this country!!!!


    p.s - I had updated my original post with the I140 details

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  • vkrishn
    11-21 10:32 PM
    Hello all,
    I am in San jose and infact i have been to Zoe Lofgren's office to check on my case status. Please PM me if i can be of any help.

    04-14 04:44 PM
    Whichever one of you guys gave me the following red, keep it up.

    "dont try to fool students and recruit them, consulting companies are bloodsuckers, no limit on 485 will never happen and u know it, nice try pal"

    Shows me your depth of knowledge of how ALL consultancies work since you probably keep tabs on ALL of them. Regarding recruiting students, I don't need to recruit students. IV is a medium to help yourself, choose to do so or not at your own peril.

    Passing judgment on all consultancies based on your experience with one or more is just called "generalization". I know quite a few consultancies where people make a lot of money and do things that company don't want to hire full timers for. Anyways, good luck to you.

    08-15 12:29 PM
    Hello Gurus,

    This is my first post. I had filed 485/140 in Aug. 2007. 140 got approved this March 2008. I donot have pay stub for last 3 months. I am looking for change. My labor is a substituted one( PD 2004). It has skills mentioned of Oracle EBS. I am working on Java/J2EE. I am looking for a new Job with Java/J2EE skills. I am worried that my new offer letter with Java skills mentioned would create a problem for me.

    Please Gurus, can you advice me as to whether I can do that? Will staying on bench create a problem, as I donot get salary on bench.

    Please help me.

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